Most people find us
at one point
on a very long line.

A first trust. A parent who needs care. A death and the paperwork that will not wait.
We are an estate planning and elder law firm, and we are built to still be here for the next one.

Most people find us at one point on this line, holding one problem.
It helps to see the rest of it.

While you are building

You are healthy, you are working, and you own things now that you did not own ten years ago.

This is the stage almost everybody arrives in and the one nobody is in a hurry about. There is a house, probably a retirement account, maybe a business or a rental, and children who are either young enough to need a guardian named or old enough to inherit badly. Nothing is wrong. That is exactly what makes it easy to put off.

The work here is a living trust and the documents around it, so that nothing your family owns has to go through a court. Alongside it sits the question of exposure: what a lawsuit, a creditor, or a bad year could reach, and how to put it out of reach before anything happens rather than after.

What lives here

  • Estate Planning
  • Asset Protection
  • Advanced Tax Planning

“My husband and I had been dragging our feet for over a year to get our estate plan going (even though we knew we had to do it) just because it seemed so daunting.”

Pooja M., client

If you have been meaning to do this for a while, this is your stage, and you are in ordinary company.

While you are caring

Something has changed with a parent, a spouse, or a child, and the questions got harder.

A diagnosis lands, or a parent stops being able to manage on their own, and suddenly there is a category of question nobody prepared you for. What long-term care costs and who pays for it. What Medi-Cal means for the house. What happens to a disabled child's benefits if you leave them money the wrong way.

This is its own body of law, and it runs on deadlines and eligibility rules rather than on documents.

What lives here

  • Elder Law and Medi-Cal Planning
  • Special Needs Planning

“There is often a sense of guilt... If you don't mind my sharing my personal experience, I've went through something very similar, and I understand the exhaustion that comes along with it.”

Patrick Phancao, on camera, on moving a parent into a nursing home

If you are the one making the phone calls for somebody else now, this is your stage.

When someone dies

The paperwork does not wait for you to be ready, and some of it is on a clock.

Somebody has died. There are notices that must go out by law, accounts nobody can touch, a house in one person's name, and a court process that may or may not be avoidable depending on what was set up years ago.

If there is a trust, the work is administering it, which is a set of duties with real legal exposure for whoever agreed to be trustee. If there is not, the work is probate, which is slower and public and is the thing the first stage exists to prevent.

You do not need to understand any of that before you call.

What lives here

  • California Probate
  • Trust Administration

“At a time of tremendous stress and grief, Shadi guided me through the entire trust process with compassion and insight. Her ability to translate complex legal concepts into language that is comprehensible to the lay individual is nothing short of a gift!”

Lisa P., client

If somebody has just died and you do not know what you are supposed to do first, start here, and start today. Some of these deadlines are short.

When it begins again

The people who inherited are now the people with houses and children of their own.

This is the stage nobody plans for and the one that says the most about a firm. The children who sat in on the meetings become clients. The trustee who was walked through their duties calls back years later about their own family. The plan gets restated because a marriage happened, or did not last, or a grandchild arrived.

We know what this looks like because it is a large part of the practice.

What lives here

“Attorney Shaffer has been our estate planning attorney for over 15 years and has helped us restate our living trust twice. She has guided us based on our evolving needs and is always dedicated to the best work.”

Erin L. C., client

If your parents were clients here, we very likely still have the file.

Everything after the signing is already included. That is the whole idea.

Shadi calls it lifetime guidance, and it is in the fee. Read her own list of what it covers against the four stages above.

“Because we're about this lifelong relationship, so we built in all those services, and it's in our fee... I'm kind of all in and all all out. I don't do like piecemeal work... No, everyone in my all of our clients have that lifetime guidance.”

Shadi Ala’i Shaffer, on the record, 2024
  • While you are building
    • The planning itself
    • Notary fees
    • Deed transfer filing fees
  • While you are caring
    • A meeting with the well spouse if the other becomes ill or develops Alzheimer's
  • When someone dies
    • A meeting when the first spouse dies
    • A meeting when both have died
  • When it begins again
    • A meeting with the trustee

(LIFETIME GUIDANCE, CONFIRM WITH CLIENT THAT IT IS CURRENT AND MAY BE NAMED PUBLICLY)

Patrick P. Phancao
Patrick P. PhancaoFounding partner
Shadi Ala’i Shaffer
Shadi Ala’i ShafferFounding partner

Two attorneys started this firm in 2004 and still run it.

Patrick handles the structures. Shadi handles the plans and the people. Four attorneys and four staff work here now, and a good number of the families on the books have been on them for more than a decade.

“Together, we set out to create a law firm built on lifelong relationships, where we could support our clients through every stage of their lives.”

Shadi Ala’i Shaffer

About the firm

“A person first.”

Three clients, in their own words, on the firm's own reviews page and radio show.

“I ended up even giving a deposit to a different law company and there was trouble getting the deposit back over time but I eventually got it back. But I found with them you were just a number but working with you and your firm, I felt like I was a person first.”

Tom Gates, client, on Trust Talk Radio

“I felt like a friend and not just another client.”

William R., client

“I never thought that doing business with a legal organization could be so friendly, courteous and an overall good experience. I felt special!!”

Janet K., client

The testimonials or endorsements do not constitute a guarantee, warranty, or prediction regarding the outcome of your legal matter.

Hired for one thing. Still here for the next one.

“We are not a trust Mill. We are attorneys that once you become our trust client, we are with you for many years to come, and that is why our fee structure is very different. We're not for everybody, but we offer that service.”

Shadi Ala’i Shaffer

“My experience with Shadi and Patrick stem from a Ten year relationship. When it comes to estate planning and trusts they are my go to and only law firm.”

Karen I., client

“I'm CPA and have been working with Asset Protection & Elder Law Center for over 10 years. They do all my trust work as well as other general counsel items and I have never thought of taking my services elsewhere.”

Steve F., CPA, client

“Shadi Shaffer has served our family for many, many years.”

A. Nissen, client

“I have used Asset Protection and Elder Law Center a few times over the years for my family's estate planning needs.”

Chet O., client

Read first, call later.

For anyone who would rather understand the whole thing before talking to anybody, including us.

Start with the library

  • 119videos, most of them Patrick's, answering the questions people actually ask
  • 90issues of a printed newsletter, still arriving
  • Onebook, written by the two founders

You have probably been meaning to do this for a while.
Most people who call us have.

Start with a conversation. Nothing gets signed that day.

Offices

  • Costa Mesa

    3187 Red Hill Ave #115
    Costa Mesa, CA 92626

  • Laguna Beach

    120 S Coast Hwy #100
    Laguna Beach, CA 92651